private sectors through cutting pay or eliminating health insurance benefits or retirement benefits, that's not a model we should try to emulate in the federal government. we need to turn that race around, not just for education but for living standards for americans. not a race to the bottom. host: up next, patrick on our republicans line. hi, a trick. you're talking with jackie simon. caller: yes, i have a simple question or observation. i work in advertising. i make about $85,000 a year. i pay my own pension. and why is it that i have to pay other people's mentions, simply put. i'll all for paying, you to know, the good salaries, do the police, the fireman, even politicians. but not into their pension and i mean, this is what agalls me.